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#354807 - 01/24/12 08:46 PM floor Pans
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I have a 71 monte carlo and i wanted to know if any of you have done floor pans? I just seen today that i have rot in the front drivers side floor pan.

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#354814 - 01/24/12 09:36 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: BURNOUT BOX]
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how much of the pan are you looking to replace? we did full pans in a El Camino main thing is to drill out the spot welds on the floor braces.
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#354821 - 01/24/12 10:10 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: BURNOUT BOX]
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Well all i seen sofar was the drive side front floor,But i may do all of them front to back.

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#354823 - 01/24/12 10:24 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: BURNOUT BOX]
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Yesterday I finally received my front 1/4 floor pan from Lutty's. It's just the drivers floor section.....$55. I'm actually only going to use a 12"X8" piece. My buddy is the welder so he gets the car tomorrow. Pull your seats and all the carpet to make sure what you need. I had a bad spot under the back seat which was already fixed
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#354825 - 01/24/12 10:40 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: BURNOUT BOX]
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Thanks Murphy for the picture,More picture of the job is welcome.

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#354833 - 01/24/12 11:13 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: BURNOUT BOX]
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Here's another of the complete floor, it's excellant (I think) for 40+ yrs old.
Once I get it back from welding shop, I'm covering everything in HushMat then new carpet.
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#354834 - 01/24/12 11:14 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: BURNOUT BOX]
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NIce bro

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#354875 - 01/25/12 01:42 AM Re: floor Pans [Re: BURNOUT BOX]
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Saw your post on face book Jim and thought damn that name looks farmiler. duh

Those floors dont look to bad other than thay one spot, once you get that fixed and that rust cleaned up your good to go.
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#355087 - 01/26/12 03:24 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: cny first gen 71]
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Originally Posted By: cny first gen 71
Saw your post on face book Jim and thought damn that name looks farmiler. duh

Those floors dont look to bad other than thay one spot, once you get that fixed and that rust cleaned up your good to go.
Hey bro.. smile Yeah them pictures of the floors are not my pictures,But i will be getting out there today to look in to it more and take pictures,

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#355092 - 01/26/12 05:29 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: BURNOUT BOX]
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#355098 - 01/26/12 05:53 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: BURNOUT BOX]
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I's say it has a few holes in it.
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#355130 - 01/26/12 10:35 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: Leghome]
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What's left can't be to good either!! Better get a the full pan and cut it to fit and drop it in..........
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#355136 - 01/26/12 10:44 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: Murphy]
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Originally Posted By: Murphy
What's left can't be to good either!! Better get a the full pan and cut it to fit and drop it in..........
Yeah i am just going to get the full floor pan.
floor pan


Edited by BURNOUT BOX (01/26/12 10:45 PM)

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#355147 - 01/26/12 11:12 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: BURNOUT BOX]
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here is a few picture from our Elkie we replaced the left and right side and welded the center of the two together when we put the new pans in.

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#355201 - 01/27/12 05:07 AM Re: floor Pans [Re: monte70car]
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Do you have to do the floor supports?

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#355205 - 01/27/12 08:31 AM Re: floor Pans [Re: BURNOUT BOX]
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Until u get the pan off its hard to say. U can see the braces from the ground to get an idea on what the outside looks like. With ours we didn't replace they just cleaned them up and painted them.
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#355226 - 01/27/12 04:46 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: BURNOUT BOX]
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ok i will look when its not raining lol,by the way your car sounds good bro.

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#359139 - 02/19/12 08:33 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: Murphy]
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Originally Posted By: Murphy
Here's another of the complete floor, it's excellant (I think) for 40+ yrs old.
Once I get it back from welding shop, I'm covering everything in HushMat then new carpet.
Just some updated photos of the floor.....
Found that Eastwoods product is a better quality and cheaper....34sqft kit wasn't quite enough!!
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#359221 - 02/20/12 01:17 AM Re: floor Pans [Re: BURNOUT BOX]
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That looks great I am about to start the same project. Did you POR 15?
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#359289 - 02/20/12 01:44 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: bdoubleu]
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Partially, all the seems and any questionable spots. The entire underside from the rear bumper to the firewall I did POR15. After 48hrs, allowing the POR15 to cure (on the inside),I then brush painted with Rustoleums Flat Black for metal. I spent a good bit of time cleaning & wiping down the metal befor paint. Really turned out great!
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#359299 - 02/20/12 03:34 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: Murphy]
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Originally Posted By: Murphy
Partially, all the seems and any questionable spots. The entire underside from the rear bumper to the firewall I did POR15. After 48hrs, allowing the POR15 to cure (on the inside),I then brush painted with Rustoleums Flat Black for metal. I spent a good bit of time cleaning & wiping down the metal befor paint. Really turned out great!


Great pics thanks for sharing and looks good. I have a few questions.

You used the POR 15 underneath and then only the seems where there was rust inside the interior? Is it because it's a bit $ to do the entire inside floor pan? with the POR15? I can see the rustoleum would do the job, but isn't the POR15 designed to chemically change RUST to prevent it from reverting back? Just asking as I think you did a great job and looks great but just curious on the thoughts for doing it this way..as I will be wanting to do mine sometime soon. Also the Eastwood can you tell me the thickness of it and current $ over the other Dynamat. I had a local guy tell me that the same basic stuff is available at Home Depot to do the same job, just in a roll similar to what sounds like you used. If it is would be a good cheap way to get similar results...

Thanks and keep the pics coming wink

Scott
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#359301 - 02/20/12 03:39 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: BURNOUT BOX]
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Looks Great MURPHY.
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#359306 - 02/20/12 04:25 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: VE3HZZ]
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The reason I did the seems was that the POR15 is nice a thick & I wanted to sealup the chalked areas. I removed a few minor rusty spots with a grinder first then a primer. I chose the Rustoleum cause it was much cheaper and I have sealed it from the bottomside already, I didn't really have any rust that I was covering.
The Eastwood "Thermo-Sound Dampening Barrier" is 1/8" thick & is very easy to work with. The Kit I got was 34sqft w/rolling tool. (which is a must) I've just ordered 2 10' kits as they are on special for $21 ea. The originalkit was $155. So I'll have $200 into the floor. Many others have told me of the difficulty of the Dynamat to work with & the cutup hands U will get plus twice the price.....
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#359317 - 02/20/12 05:14 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: BURNOUT BOX]
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Floor pan looks great, Murphy! Nice job. smile
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#359347 - 02/20/12 08:30 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: Murphy]
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Thanks for the reply Murphy. I understand the reasoning now thank you. I have to source the POR15 I think I know someone local who sells it as a dealer so may opt to go that way underneath. As for the inside, well will look at the stuff that is suppose to be at Home Depot and see if I can find a comparison to the Eastwood stuff. Makes sense it would be similar as it is designed to do similar thing only in a house/structure. Moisture and sound deadening and heat barrier is common to both. I imagine that the Dynamat came from construction in housing originally more then just an automotive application. Sometimes brand names are just that...but the DEAL on it now for 10 ft rolls doesn't seem too bad. Of the 34 sq ft you purchased what if any was left or waste? Did you use it all + need more hence the repurchase? or just too good of a deal not to have some to finish other areas?

Thanks again for the info and pics, help to inspire us all I'm sure to get out there!!!

Scott
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#359350 - 02/20/12 08:51 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: BURNOUT BOX]
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Nice work bro,,,I will have more pictures of the work on the floors soon.Thanks for the pictures and info on floor work,

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#359385 - 02/21/12 12:16 AM Re: floor Pans [Re: VE3HZZ]
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I had almost zero waste, as any small pieces I had, I cut to fit into various little gaps and then I used HVAC joint tape to cover all seems. Its shiny foil tape which blends in so well that you cannot even tell from the pics that it is used. I knew that 34 sq ft wasn't enough but didn't want to order another kit until this was installed so I could get a more accurate measurement. I plan on covering up the rear wheel wells that are exposed in the picture and then the section that's unfinished figures out to about 8 sqft. Any left over from that I'll probably try to fit under the dash against the firewall......The HVAC tape was $8 bucks at Home Depot for 50 ft, 2 inches wide.
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#359393 - 02/21/12 12:38 AM Re: floor Pans [Re: Murphy]
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Originally Posted By: Murphy
I had almost zero waste, as any small pieces I had, I cut to fit into various little gaps and then I used HVAC joint tape to cover all seems. Its shiny foil tape which blends in so well that you cannot even tell from the pics that it is used. I knew that 34 sq ft wasn't enough but didn't want to order another kit until this was installed so I could get a more accurate measurement. I plan on covering up the rear wheel wells that are exposed in the picture and then the section that's unfinished figures out to about 8 sqft. Any left over from that I'll probably try to fit under the dash against the firewall......The HVAC tape was $8 bucks at Home Depot for 50 ft, 2 inches wide.


Great info Thanks!!! I will store this away for when I do mine. I had the guy that wanted my old dash pad come today to buy it. I took the clips off it but he has enough. I painted them (sorry no pics) and put them back on the stereo pad I got and awaitng install. Got the dash panel wood grain out (that rear "defogger" switch is a PITA with those small nuts to get off). Looking at my carpet it's in really good shape. I bet at some point it was replaced? But I will redo the interior like you did. I was also told night and day difference in sound deadening and heat transfer from engine compartment once done so another motivation to Get R DONE!!!

Good luck and PICS of the REST when you can.......

Regards

Scott
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#359415 - 02/21/12 01:25 AM Re: floor Pans [Re: VE3HZZ]
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No problem Scott, thanks for encouraging words. I'm in Toronto about once a year, will definately give you a shout when that business trip comes around again!
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#359434 - 02/21/12 02:58 AM Re: floor Pans [Re: BURNOUT BOX]
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Truly looks great.
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#359438 - 02/21/12 03:42 AM Re: floor Pans [Re: Murphy]
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Murphy that would be GREAT. Let me know yes a bit of a heads up before. Can for sure get together...maybe if it's in summer time can bring out the Monte.

I am about 55 minutes from CN Tower (non rush hour) as I'm in Oshawa in the East end.

And your welcome the car is coming along well. Did you buy the stuff from Eastwood site directly?

I'll have to check it out too.....

Scott
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#359467 - 02/21/12 03:03 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: VE3HZZ]
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Yes, purchased directly from Eastwood. When you set up an acct, they send you a Thank you email with a code# for FREE shipping on 1st order. Which was great. After I received the order, I got another Thank you email and another code# for free shipping again to be used in 30days. I'm impressed with their services...........
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#359493 - 02/21/12 06:42 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: BURNOUT BOX]
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Eastwood is a good source I hit them up when I need items all the time.
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#359747 - 02/22/12 08:34 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: BURNOUT BOX]
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Did alittle more prep work today,


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#360771 - 02/27/12 04:35 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: BURNOUT BOX]
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It's looking good BurnOut, alot more than I'd want to attempt. Finished my floor this weekend since Daytona was postponed!! Now I just need to order carpet......I also strung new speaker wire in the flat plastic conduit.
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#361700 - 03/04/12 02:57 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: BURNOUT BOX]
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Thats a good idea on the speaker wire lol

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#361936 - 03/05/12 09:19 PM Re: floor Pans [Re: BURNOUT BOX]
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Great job on that floor Murphy!
If you're going to do it, do it right, I always say and you did it right! smile
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